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I think most people do not have self-control when it comes to discussing their likes and dislikes and sometimes that can lead to them looking bad when trying to use logic. In particular I think it’s worse with things you dislike and I will provide an example.
I’m preempting this with a statement that no, I do not like Hasan. I think everyone knows the controversy from not to long ago where it came to light that Hasan might be potentially using a shock collar on his dog, and I think most people agree with this consensus for a variety of reasons, but regardless of if you think he did or didn’t people were pulling for any sign of previous behavior he may be like this from older streams, and most of these are like relevant examples but one people tried to push as just as significant was this video of Hasan giggling about one of his dogs being anxious and fearful towards his other dog when his other dog bites at her, but like I feel like literally anybody who has had more than one dog or even car knows that dogs (and cats) nip at each other often playfully and other dogs are not always going to responds positively to that. Hasan basically describes this to the audience than says like “I hope he bites her” and then the dog bites at her and she does some jumpy scared reaction and he laughs, and like I don’t think that’s weird at all… it’s clearly a behavior the two dogs have done before, and I know that other dogs act like that and they don’t like bleed or suffer except for being spooked.
So like… seeing them try and use this as proof makes it look like people are pulling at straws to pin him as a dog abuser, when many more of the clips are actually much more supportive of the idea. These people hate Hasan so much and want him to be seen as a bad person so much that they end up poisoning their own well of arguments against him by tossing in a bad faith clearly insignificant point of proof. Honestly I didn’t like him when this happened, but I was undecided because I saw clips like this that were clearly blown out of proportion alongside legitimate examples and it made me doubt the legitimate examples more.
I saw a video that referenced this is why I used that example, but there are tons of examples of this exact behavior out there and I think that most people don’t understand either that they’re even doing this or that what they’re doing hurts their argument. We’d be able to agree on a lot more things if people were more level headed regarding their opinions but everyone seems too caught up in being one way or being the other that they fail to communicate to each other at all.
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I’m preempting this with a statement that no, I do not like Hasan. I think everyone knows the controversy from not to long ago where it came to light that Hasan might be potentially using a shock collar on his dog, and I think most people agree with this consensus for a variety of reasons, but regardless of if you think he did or didn’t people were pulling for any sign of previous behavior he may be like this from older streams, and most of these are like relevant examples but one people tried to push as just as significant was this video of Hasan giggling about one of his dogs being anxious and fearful towards his other dog when his other dog bites at her, but like I feel like literally anybody who has had more than one dog or even car knows that dogs (and cats) nip at each other often playfully and other dogs are not always going to responds positively to that. Hasan basically describes this to the audience than says like “I hope he bites her” and then the dog bites at her and she does some jumpy scared reaction and he laughs, and like I don’t think that’s weird at all… it’s clearly a behavior the two dogs have done before, and I know that other dogs act like that and they don’t like bleed or suffer except for being spooked.
So like… seeing them try and use this as proof makes it look like people are pulling at straws to pin him as a dog abuser, when many more of the clips are actually much more supportive of the idea. These people hate Hasan so much and want him to be seen as a bad person so much that they end up poisoning their own well of arguments against him by tossing in a bad faith clearly insignificant point of proof. Honestly I didn’t like him when this happened, but I was undecided because I saw clips like this that were clearly blown out of proportion alongside legitimate examples and it made me doubt the legitimate examples more.
I saw a video that referenced this is why I used that example, but there are tons of examples of this exact behavior out there and I think that most people don’t understand either that they’re even doing this or that what they’re doing hurts their argument. We’d be able to agree on a lot more things if people were more level headed regarding their opinions but everyone seems too caught up in being one way or being the other that they fail to communicate to each other at all.
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